RAAus Endorsements

Ive just got my RAA ticket with
High Performance
Pax carrying
radio operating
nose wheel
cross country
Oz I assume the list you gave is just for 3 axis types?. Assume there are also special endorsements for weight shift and aerochutes?
I am sure this is all in the manual they sent me, but I havent got around to reading it yet. My next endorsement will prolly be the low performance, which I think the Gazelle qualifies for ? Floats would be fun to do one day. I want my tail dragger endorsement to be in a Tiger Moth. If I do that the GA way would I automatically get my RAA license tail dragger endorsed.? I think its great to have goals to aim for , whether its flying or any other activity. I think RAA should also have some theory levels to work towards as well.

I am considered competant on the Jabiru , Bantam and Tecnam Golf , thats what my logbook says anyway . I have a PAX , XC, Radio and Trigear endorsements on my pilot cerificate . My certificate is in the process of renewal at this time , so I'll be interested to see what is shown on it . I am keen to do a CTA endorsement when we allowed , and was speaking to Ashley at Sydney jabiru flying school yesterday as to the prospects . I also have 1Hr on taildraggers , so I may go for my taildragger ticket soon too ..
Darren , Where you doing the BFR ???

Dave C

HI Chris.
Like You So Far I have:

High Performance
Low Performance
Cross Country
Passenger Carrying
Radio Operator
Nose Wheel
Tail Wheel
Low level
2 Stroke

Now if only I could talk Mike into letting me loose in a Alpi Pioneer 300 I could get Retracks & In-Flight Adjustable Prop ones as well...
Regards Steve

I have neither HP nor LP so it seems that I can only fly airplanes with a normal cruise speed of exactly 80 kts.

I recently got my RAA wing and currently have the following endorsements;

• High Performance
• Human Factors
• Radio operator
• Passenger Carrying
• Nose Wheel

I am looking forward to expanding my flying skill especially with the navigation, tail wheel, constant speed and retractable endorsements. Just wondering, do RAA endorsements count towards GA. Can I be endorsed for retractable in RAA and when I get my PPL will I be endorsed for retractable GA.

Interesting. Many years ago GA had a similar system. Endorsements for constant speed, retractable gear, tailwheel, glider towing, flying boat, floatplane, there may have been others. They also brought in an endorsement for "low intertia" to cover some GA registered machines like the Skyfox (I've got one of those- may be the only one in captivity). And there were endorsements for individual aircraft (my old pilot's license has a number of those).
Then I think they decided that if you could fly one light aircraft, then you could fly them all, although retaining specific endorsements for tailwheel, floats, glider towing, etc. Not sure if constant speed and retractable gear are still specific endorsements, but I think they went for simplification as much as possible.
Seems a bit silly, really. While one aircraft with retractable gear could use a quite different system from another with retractable gear, it seems that once you have been endorsed on one, you are considered competent on them all. Yet an aircraft with a mechanical linkage to the gear poses quite different problems to one with (say) an electric system, if it goes u/s while you are airborne.
In the meantime, I was happily flying gliders with retractable gear, no questions asked....
(My pre-landing check became Flaps, Undercarriage, Speed, Undercarriage, Trim, Undercarriage, Undercarriage, Undercarriage....)
One of these days they'll get a consistent system across all of aviation- although I'm not holding my breath....

Coop

With that taken into account it leaves me wondering, if I was to hold a RAA navigation endorsment will i have to complete navigation exersises to receive my PPL?

Probably. CASA isn't known for being logical...
However, you may be able to get some recognition for prior learning, and at the very least, your GA nav should be a doddle if you've done the RAA one.

Coop

Those specific operational endorsements still exist and are printed on your Pilots licence.

Constant speed and retractable are still endorsements on your licence, but it is not quite a one fits all scenario. You still need a type endorsement or conversion before you can fly any aircraft that you are not type endorsed in similar to what we do in RAA, and that type endorsement is not on your licence it is recorded in your log book and your log book entry is legal proof of the type endorsement.

That is not entirely true you are only endorsed in a particular configuration generally, you still need to undergo a type endorsement for a particular brand of aircraft. For example just because I am tail wheel endorsed in the Citabria, C180s, C185s and Austers, does not mean I can legally fly a Tiger Moth unless I do a conversion (am type endorsed) in the Tiger Moth. So it is really not a cover all endorsement

Chris,
I am intrigued with all the endorsements and particularly the one you say you have 'Low Level'. How did you get that, was it prior low level training in GA because there is no GA Low Level endorsement as such, it is just low level training.

The reason I ask is that even though RA Aus has a 'Low level' curriculum to my knowledge no one is offering low level endorsement training in RAA as yet. Do you know if that is still the case? I used to fly ultralights in the 80s and in those days were not allowed above 300 feet, so I have had plenty of low level experience below 300 feet, but because in those days I was a GA pilot and we never logged ultralight flying because after all they were not real aircraft were they … LOL.

When I converted from GA to RAA legally for the first time I ended up with the following RAA endorsements:
High Performance
Low Performance
Cross Country
Passenger Carrying
Radio Operator
Nose Wheel
Tail Wheel
Retractable Undercarriage
In Flight Adjustable Propeller (const.speed)
2 Stroke

I did not get low level (no log book evidence even though I gave a stat declaration for the ultralight hors under ANO 95-10 which meant all flight was below 300ft back then).
Obviously I can legally fly in CTA as long as my Class 2 medical is current and I fly the type of RAA aircraft approved for flight into CTA, but there is no RAA CTA endorsement as such, so my RAA pilot Certificate does not state CTA.

So how did you get your Low level endorsement?

Not true, David. The tail-wheel endorsement on a CASA licence entitles you to fly any light aircraft (VH registered, I should add) with the exception of some specific types listed in one of the CAO's (eg I think Mustang is on that list). So, if some-one does a tail-wheel endorsement on a Citabria then they may legally get into a Decathlon, Tiger Moth and Pitts. There are some who have done that and rolled the Pitts into a little ball however. The owner/operator of the aeroplane and/or insurance company will decide what is required in the way of a checkout in any specific type.

The Licensing Manual on CASA's website is a good place to educate yourself on the rules related to this.

CASA has pre-requisites for undertaking the PPL test so you must meet all of those requirements (including the theory exam passes). You will need to be recommended for the test by the CFI of a flying school - suggest that you ask one or two nearby CFIs what they want. The flying school will need to certify your competency in all elements of the PPL syllabus.

Wow, thanks for the correction David, that is real curly, but I guess as you say the owner will determine what skill level you need before you fly, so does that apply in all endorsement categories that you know of?

It does indeed, David.

CAO 40.1.0 is online here - a lot there but all fairly clear.

Thanks David, I will have to look that up; that link you put up goes to some site called Hostgator.com.
So once again, many things may be legal, it is just they may not be covered by insurance even if what you are doing is not illegal. Interesting.

Are you still OS?

Link amended, not sure what happened earlier.

Just arrived back late last night - USA, Serbia & Hong Kong in 10 days.

Welcome back David, sounds like you had a hoot.

I just looked at the CAO ... very interesting typical convoluted structure that has you flicking back and forth. Seems I am a bit out of date ... LOL

Time for another coffee when next in Melbourne, I will see if I can coordinate it.
Best Regards

HI DBI, Tomo has a low level RAA endorsment, I believe.

Does he ... I keep hearing about these low level endorsements and yet can find nobody doing them. So who is actually doing them. Can you ask him how he got it, or better still PM me his email. Technically or shall I say legally I have to have one in RAA to fly below 500ft even on my own property. Ironically I don't need any low level training in GA to fly below 500 over my own property even though common sense would tell you that you should do it.Thanks

He got it on the Darling downs.I mob who he first learned to fly with. The place he hires the Drifter and Jab.The CFI IS BoB something.I will find out.

David, Keith McGeachie can do LL endo at Cessnock FYI. I intend to do one sometime, maybe when I do all the Thruster stuff.
Cheers
Dexter

Do you have contact info for him Dex, what does he do it in ... I hope a drifter.

Text message sent David
Cheers Dexter